"We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."....really pelosi?

We are just finding out what was contained within that Obamacare law that Obama signed weeks ago.

Here are five things we've learned so far:

One: No sooner had Obamacare passed than the White House discovered that someone goofed. Despite all of Obama's promises and talking points, Obamacare as passed by Congress does not require insurers to cover children with expensive pre-existing medical conditions.

Immediately, the White House got an assurance from the insurers. After demonizing them for months as callous profiteers on others' misery (in fact, the entire industry is barely profitable), Obama now tells Americans that they can trust health insurance companies to do the right thing out of the goodness of their hearts.

Two: State governments discovered that they are no longer just required to guarantee payment for indigent patients' care under Medicaid. Obamacare changes Medicaid law so that now states must also guarantee treatment to the poor.

This is a thorny issue: Many doctors refuse to see Medicaid patients because the program doesn't pay enough for them to break even. (In some states, payments to doctors have been delayed for months or years.)

Some cash-strapped states expect this new definition to spawn court challenges, which will ultimately force them to pay exorbitantly high prices to doctors and hospitals for their existing patients.

Three: Even as Medicaid's costs increase because of the above, so will the number of Medicaid patients under Obamacare's coverage provisions. Thanks to the "Cornhusker Kickback" -- the special Nebraska provision that was extended to every state in the final version of the bill -- the federal taxpayer is on the hook for 90 percent of the new patients' expenses.

So remember those rosy budget projections about Obamacare reducing the deficit, or at least not costing too much? Forget it.

Four: Douglas Shulman, commissioner for the Internal Revenue Service, announced this week at the National Press Club that Obamacare means he can take your tax refund from you. Obamacare requires Americans to purchase insurance, but contains no serious enforcement mechanisms.

So, Shulman said, the IRS will collect penalties from those who fail to purchase "qualified" insurance by confiscating the interest-free loans that taxpayers make to the government throughout the year through employment withholding.

Five: The ski-tourism industry suddenly realizes that it is endangered by Obamacare. Ski resorts must now provide health care or else pay a fine for each employee who works more than 120 days out of the year -- and many of their employees do.

The bill had applied only at the 150-day threshold, until House Democrats changed it in reconciliation. They also cranked up the fine from $750 to $2,000 per employee, in order to pad their budget numbers.

Those are just five things we've learned, out of more than 2,000 pages. You can bet we'll learn a lot more in the seven months leading up to Election Day.

Speaking of which, on Monday evening, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., explained away public opposition to this new health care law, shaped in large part by the special deals he made with reluctant senators last December.

"The loud minority made a lot of noise," Reid said. "Everybody acknowledges, with rare exception, that what we did with our immediate deliverables was terrific."

Reid's state defies the laws of math. Sixty-two percent of Nevadans somehow constitute a "rare exception." And it looks as though the "loud minority" will send Reid looking for a new insurance plan later this year.

Wow, your so right obama, this reform rocks and your the messiah...in 275 years since the birth of our nation how did we survive without your omnipresent hand and wisdom to guide and tell us what to do??? See, thats the problem with us stupid conservative americans, we can`t be trusted to do anything for ourselves and the liberal politicians always know best, right?
Well this conservative american thinks not! I would never trust an organization, political party, or a president for that matter that subscribes to the belief that the end justifies the means.....

How far we have come when our elected officials no longer follow the constitution when it comes to their legislation, when they see themselves as the ruling class and appoint themselves as kings and queens over the working class and see it as their duty to take from the productive to give to the non-productive just so they will all but insure their reign of power and dominence over the rest of us.

A word of advice to you people who love your free stuff and continue to support these corrupt and immoral men and women, when your liberal masters get done going after us conservatives they will turn all their energy to you and their own kind, you can be sure of that....

How low will dems go to pass healthcare plan?

This week was, in my opinion the most dispicable display of tugging at the american peoples` heartstrings that I ever witnessed.....

A health care news conference was held on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, March 11, 2010, and in this public display of thuggery




Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nev., along with Gina Owens from Seattle, Wash.,whose daughter, Tiffany Owens died after losing her job and health care....
after more scrutney we find out that her daughter had a inoperable disease and was in fact receiving medical treatment.
Reed marches her up to the podium and in her well prepared speech she goes on to say that it was our(society)fault that her daughter didn`t have healthcare.
I disagree with this misrepresented statement, it wasn`t healthcare that she didn`t have( notice the fact that we have this arcadic law that states quite clearly that NO ONE can be turned down for medical treatment) it was in fact health ins that she was lacking.....
this my friends is a huge misdirection that the left uses whenever they are trying to advance their liberal agenda.

Then at the same press conference "big dick" durbin goes on to say that everyday 70 people die from lack of health ins....really? I would love to see where he gets his facts from. Let me ask you dick, how many people die everyday and HAVE health ins?
Simply the daydream that the libs/dems must be living in is that just because you have health ins you will live forever....is this the case dick?

On February 26, Les Blumenthal of The Olympian reported Murray shared the Marcelas talking point at the White House health care summit:

"Sen. Patty Murray has told the story of Marcelas Owens dozens of times before, but Thursday she may never have had a bigger audience as she talked of the 10-year-old Seattle boy whose mother died after she lost her health insurance coverage."


"I lost my mom because she didn’t have health care," Marcelas said. "Every day it’s hard not having her around. I don’t want any other kid to go through what I have gone through."


Senator Murray’s campaign website had a fuller version of the statement:

Marcelas Owens, whose entire family have been longtime members of the Washington Community Action Network, issued the following statement today thanking Senator Murray for her leadership:

"I want to thank Senator Murray for sharing my story with President Obama and other people in Congress. I lost my mom because she didn't have health care. Every day it's hard not having her around. I don't want any other kid to have to go through what I went through. That's why I don't understand why some politicians are saying that Congress should stop working to pass the health care reform bill. Every day we wait, more kids like me will lose someone they love. Thank you for fighting for me, Senator Murray."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfdsx1OHMfs

Clearly, a ten-year-old boy who lost his mother is a heart-tugging anecdote. But, aside from the desirability of using grade-schoolers in political debates, more knowledge about how organized this Marcelas campaign is displays that CBS and MSNBC are receptive recyclers of liberal Democrat video-press-release ideas.

Then you of course have the liberal media spin on this debate:

CNN's Jim Acosta omitted the left-wing affiliation of pro-ObamaCare protesters during a report on Wednesday's American Morning, referring to them as only "health care advocates and labor groups." Acosta, like his colleague Nancy Cordes at CBS, also highlighted child protester Marcelas Owens, and labeled him a "brave young man."

Kiran Chetry and John Roberts introduced Acosta's report, and the anchors also failed to mention the political bent of the protest, which was organized by the Health Care for America Now coalition (HCAN's members include the AFL-CIO, NAACP, and Planned Parenthood). Chetry remarked that "thousands though rallied in Washington against what they call 'insurance industry bullying.'"

15 percent of all decisions that are made in what is known as – air finger quotation marks – “the healthcare system,” end quote air fingers. 15 percent are actually paid for at the time of transaction by the consumer of the service. 15 percent. That in and of itself is a recipe for disaster. That in and of itself is going to drive costs, and it’s going to drive them up. Because as long as you’re spending somebody else’s money, or what you perceive to be somebody else’s or someone else’s money, or some other entity’s money, you’re not going to be frugal with it. You’re going to assume that they have been frugal with it.

You see, this is the great distraction here. The frugality end of the healthcare industry, then, falls solely on the shoulder of the insurance companies. Because the consumer has abdicated their responsibility. And there’s one surefire way to rein costs in tomorrow morning. And that is to exterminate by act of Congress all tax benefits that accrue to anyone that purchases anything called health insurance. No company gets it. No individual gets it. You have, look, your tax receipts are going to increase. And I’m not a proponent of this because I’m not a fan of the income tax and withholding to start with. But let me finish the statement here.

Your company then can no longer treat the income, which is what it is, that they are paying you through the benefit, which is why they do it. They don’t do it because they care about you. They don’t do it because it’s good business. They don’t do it for any of the other reasons that people lie through their teeth and say, oh, we care about our employees. No, you don’t. You care about profit, and that’s all you should care about. In your community you care about people. In your business, if you care about people – you know what they call people in business that care about other people? You know what they call them? Bankrupt. They call them out of business. They call them nonprofits. Eliminate the tax benefit. When you actually are going to have to go out and shop with the Geico gecko and with some dude that says that, like a good neighbor, some guy is there and what have you there, you’re going to make better deals.

You know those MRI machines that cost a million and a half, from the scarecrow dancing on the GE smart grid lines? You know those things? They’ll be a thing of the past if you have to pay directly for that scan. The way that machine is built today will become a thing of the past when an actual entrepreneur or a doctor actually has to buy that thing, and then actually has to sell the services and has to convince people, hey, the doctor’s not telling you you need that because he’s covering his behind with a slip-and-fall lawyer. The doctor is telling you he needs it because you actually need the service, but you’re going to have to pay for it.

You know, ladies and gentlemen, in most states there are these things that you could buy called catastrophic medical insurance policies. You can buy one with a $5,000 deductible. You can buy one with a $10,000 deductible. I think they ought to make them as high as you want to make it. Meaning that you’re only covered when you need, like the gentleman that just called, a million dollars’ worth of services, well, the first 20 grand could be on you. And the insurance will be priced accordingly. But most people don’t want to hear that because that’s difficult. But you have no problem doing that when it comes to your car insurance. I just can’t figure this out.

Retail sales rose three tenths of a percent in February. Ooooh. Three tenths of a percent. The recovery is here you say, really?. Retail sales posted a surprising increase in February as consumers did not let major snowstorms stop them from storming the malls. How were they out there storming malls when unemployment went up because of the snowstorm? Oh, I see, we’re not looking for a job, but you were out spending money you don’t have. What’s wrong with this picture?

Derbyshire on the Mike Church Show said yesterday that he doesn’t see how we’re ever going to go back to producing things, and that we’re doomed. I don’t know that we’re doomed, that we can never go back to making things, if we just stop lying to kids and telling them that they’re never going to have to fend for themselves, and that some of them are going to have to make things, and that they can proudly make things, and it’s fun, and it’s rewarding to make things. I don’t know. Hell, humans did it for about 7,000 years of recorded history, until the Federal Reserve came along.

If there is one thing you fine people take away from my rant on this subject, let it be this....
This ramrod is not about healthcare, its about the assult on your freedoms and liberties plain and simple, its about the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT taking over every aspect of your life, look past all the rhetoric, smoke screens and downright lies from both sides of the political aisle!
Yes, you heard me right, republicans as well as democrats are involved in this major power grab and downright fallacy.

Its about time everyone starts to realize this, good intentions and helping your fellow man is all fine and dandy but take this into consideration, my rights and freedoms are just as important as yours and when you use the coercion of the fed gov to take a percentage of my earnings to do your bidding, you are no different than the local bum, thief, mugger that takes from me at gunpoint!
Not to mention that when you forceably conscript me to support the lazy and shiftless you are making me their slave, one persons rights are no different from anothers!

As my good friend and mentor Mike Church states so elogently and diplomatically, "this will all end in tears!"

WHY OBAMACARE SHOULD BE FLATLINED...

We told about the quarterback sneak pulled by the private health industry who finally realized that President Obama was lying like a big dog. As it turns out, more and more economically-based criticism of Obamacare is coming to light. For starters, the tacit ‘approval’ some thought they saw courtesy of the Congressional Budget Office, isn’t that at all. Not if you’re really looking, at least.
While the CBO has said they expect the collect a fair bit of money via the various taxes associated with the plan. But what if they aren’t there? The Congressional Budget Office projections (which are, in this case, the Joint Committee on Taxation's projections, as the CBO doesn't estimate tax revenues) actually suggest that the bulk of the tax's revenues will come from the response to the tax, not the payment of the tax. As the New York Times reports, the JCT believes that "about $142 billion of the 10-year total of $201 billion to be raised by the [excise tax] would come from increased income and payroll taxes." In other words, the vast majority of the revenues would come because employers would "structure their benefits to get around this tax." Workers would receive more of their compensation in wages and less in healthcare benefits, and because wages are taxable and health benefits aren't, tax revenues would go up. The trouble is that the CBO didn't adequately account for the response to the implicit marginal tax created by the sliding scale of subsidies. In other words, the CBO doesn’t fully incorporate the effects of these higher marginal tax rates in their cost estimates.
If taxpayers respond to these new incentives by, say, working less, GDP and tax revenue from income and payroll taxes will go down.
Want the bonus plan? Ask yourself if you’d feel the pinch of a 20 percentage point tax increase. I know I would.