I rarely pay attention to any one mans rants and raves, but this one resonated down to my heart and was spot on.......
In 1913 the Sixteenth Amendment was passed. Seventeenth Amendment was proposed and then ratified later. And the Creature from Jekyll Island escaped from that swamp in Georgia, and we were stuck with the Federal Reserve forevermore. This is when the war began.
Now, me and you, you and me, we didn’t actually join this battle, despite what you may think, we didn’t actually join this battle until maybe, maybe six years ago. Maybe eight years ago the battle may have actually been joined. And for the preceding 86 years we were pretending to fight the battle. Let us walk through what has happened here and why it is a no-brainer that Nazi Pelosi will have the votes on Sunday. Because the creep of history shows that liberalism, progressivism, socialism, communism’s march on this shore has been unabated. They have scored unrequited, unbelievable, totally predictable victories from the time they set their sights in 1910 or 1913 to today. Till today.
Where has there been a “conservative” victory, other than the election of Ronald Wilson Reagan? Show it to me. We’ve been getting our asses kicked for 80 years, ladies and gentlemen. 87 years we have been on the losing end of the stick. 97 years, my bad, check it. 97 years we’ve been getting walloped. For one brief moment in that 97 years, a gentleman named Cal Coolidge, “Silent Cal,” as they called him, the man that refused to put a telephone in the White House because he didn’t understand why someone from Congress couldn’t just drive down the street or walk down or ride a horse and deliver the message or ask the question. “Silent Cal” Coolidge overturned and eliminated the progressive DeceptiCon foreign policy of Woodrow Wilson. He overturned the monetary system and the inflation of the Fed. And ever since that day we’ve been getting our asses kicked. Conservatism has taken a walloping.
We have nothing to show for the last 97 years. Nothing. Remember back in August of last year, I read to you the 1928 Socialist Party of America platform. There were 13 things on that platform. We checked off 12 of them. 12 things on the 1928 Socialist Party platform have been achieved. Conservatism, and this is not a requiem or a critique of conservative thinking, conservative principles, Burkean conservatism, Jefferson republicanism, nothing of the sort. I’m just giving you the rundown. Wake up here. This “we’re going to take the country back in 2010,” to do what? You going to repeal the last 97 years? I mean, look around. What has happened? Conservatism has been destroyed. It has been beaten at every juncture.
We’ve seen our public schools, we’ve seen schools totally socialized. We send our children to socialist schools. This was not always the case. In 1910, most people still relied on private education. Education was still the responsibility of the parent. No more. Now we sit here as conservatives, whining, carping, complaining about school boards, about public schools, about public school unions, and on and on and on. We allowed this to happen. Conservatism got its ass kicked when it comes to schooling. We lost the universities. The damned Germans and the Russians that escaped communism and Nazism came here, started to apply their craft, and now they control the universities. Another defeat for conservatism. Another defeat for free people, for little “r” republicanism.
At every juncture in the last 97 years, conservatives have lost. We haven’t won a damn thing. We’ve deluded ourselves by thinking that we’ve won. We didn’t win anything. All the Reagan revolution did was slow this monster down, slowed it down, folks. Didn’t stop it. Kicked it in the shins and went, there, take that. And the monster went [snarling and laughing]. And now here we stand with what has been the goal of these nut jobs, these evil, despicable, Trotskyite individuals for 97-plus years, they now stand on the precipice of accomplishing this. And you want me to believe that because Michael Barone has done a headcount, you don’t think they are going to get the votes? Ladies and gentlemen, I’m telling you right now that, if it takes kidnapping [Jason] Altmire’s kids and holding them in a basement somewhere with Wrong Emanuel that has a .45 to some kid’s head, you will vote yes, they will rally those votes on Sunday. Just get ready for it.
The question now remains, after 97 years of successive defeats, is conservatism going to finally make a stand? Is little “r” republicanism finally going to make a stand? Is it? Well, I’d like to see the evidence of that. Understand what you are up against. You are up against a voracious beast whose appetite will never be quenched. If you think that this is the last thing that they’re going to take from you, think again. That’d be nice. Won’t happen, but it’d be nice. Because once healthcare is passed, then they’ll move on to Michelle Obama writing your diet down for you and sending a census worker to enforce it. Then they’ll move on to all the other lifestyle issues that now must be micromanaged because you can’t be allowed to be unhealthy. And then they’ll move on into sticking their fingers into every other manner, every other facet of your life, as if they don’t already have their fingers in every facet of your life.
One final note about where we have – from where we have gone to where we are. At one point in time the John Locke, creed – of life, liberty, and private property was held near and dear. Private property was elevated above all because the founders and generations of Americans before the founders – this is key, before the founders – revered private property, revered it, held it holy and sacred. This is what separated them from their European cousins. You can’t own property in Europe like you can here. Where do you think all these feudal laws came from and what have you? You had to know somebody to get property. There was very little chance a peasant would ever amass enough money to buy property unless he was fortunate enough to have a couple of acres given to him by a duke or whatever.
We were different. This is why people came here. Private property was cherished. It was sacred. Another conservative defeat here. We’ve lost this battle, as well. Many times we surrender the battle voluntarily. Oh, you need to build a road there? Oh, well, sorry, Joe. Your house is in the middle, is in the way. Too bad, pal. But you’re serving the public good because my kid needs to get to that public school over there. We surrender this. We sign off on eminent domain. We sign off on these things. Understand that, without absolute defeat, as they – I just demonstrated to you that in the last century conservatives have gotten their asses kicked every single year, on damn near every issue that they held near and dear at the turn of the last century.
Now, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe conservatives should think the way the DeceptiCons tell us that we should think. Maybe we should. Maybe I’m the antiquated one. Maybe I’m the relic of the past. Maybe we’ll never live like our founders lived. Maybe we should just give up on it. But for those of us that want to try, at least we can say that we had no part in this. Our conscience is clear. As Jefferson once said, “Our union is perfect. Our cause is just.” Now, whose side are you on?
A special shout out to my friend Mike Church....
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Showing posts with label socialism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label socialism. Show all posts
Friday, March 19, 2010
Thursday, January 14, 2010
Is this finally the end of Leviathan otherwise known as the federal government?
Liberalism is dead. R.I.P. Has assumed room temperature.
Now don’t tell this to the Libs, they are partying like its 1969, totally aloof to the tsunami of reality and disaster that is about to hit them.
Are these my far right wing talking points, you just wait and see, Obama and the Democrats are gonna fix. Actually I think that all the fixes that American Socialists have forced on the republic are the reason they’re being fitted for 7 foot long pine boxes.
Stop and make a greatest hits list of the Libs “accomplishments” and you’ll see why I’m calling in the undertaker.
Public Schools - This idea is all theirs even though today it enjoys bi-partisan support. No single progressive program has done more damage to this republic and the children living in it than public education. Libtards themselves must endlessly campaign for ever increasing amounts of resources per pupil.
More and more parents are home-schooling, tutoring and turning to 3rd party educators like Founding Father Films to educate their children.
Labor Unions, another exclusive franchise of the Stalinist libtards has worn its welcome out with but 48% of Americans approving down from its 1950’s high of 75%. These numbers do not reflect the destructive impact these unions, which these days are made of mostly government employees, have on state and local budgets.
When Americans discover the full scale of what libtard pols have promised these labor union thugs in retirement benefits, there will be a revolt. This is coming to your state very soon, it’s already hit California, Arizona and Pennsylvania to name a few.
The biggest messes created by American Socialists: Schools and the labor work force. The nail in the Libs\dems coffin comes in the form of the most discussed topic on earth today. No, NOT global warming, we’re talking “health care”.
It’s interesting to watch the Libs\dems run such a passionate campaign to slay the monster that they themselves created. It was American Socialists that created MediCare and then MediCaid. They allegedly created these wealth transfer agencies to help the elderly and the poor. They helped them alright, helped them become de-facto slaves to Leviathan. Many of these people have been stripped of their liberties and the basic human instinct of survival. This was traded to the Libtard State in exchange for the security of “free” health care benefits whose funding is provided by those who have yet to surrender to Big Brother. We call these people entrepreneurs, small biz men and women.
I have argued from day one that this issue must be argued on the grounds that it is a personal liberty to choose your doctor and for doctors to choose their profession. We have all witnessed the corrupt zeal with which the Libtards have sought to compel all of us to become their slaves and they have lost this argument.
Regardless of whether Dear Leader Chairman MaObama signs a “health care bill” this month, the people that promoted, bribed and forced it on us will be forever more marked for it and this will be their undoing.
Good… freaking… riddance!
The final nail in the Libtard coffin is Industry. The United States began the last century as the world leader in manufacturing, as late as the 1950’s, the States manufactured nearly 70% of everything consumed in this republic.
70%…
That figure has now dropped to 30% and it is the result of 50 years of unionizing, minimum wages, rules and regulations, taxes and slavery subsidies. All of these things were the dreams of the American Socialist and they became the nightmare of the American worker. This too must and will end.
What then will the Libs\dems do when they have been stripped of power over:
Schools, Industry, Health Care and Services?
Well, here’s one possible scenario: They will do what ever we demand they do, if they want a job sweeping emptying bedpans in our hospitals, sweeping floors in our power plants our washing chalk from our private school chalkboards....
It is time for this demonizing experiment called "socialism" to end, it does not work, never has worked, and never will work!
Now don’t tell this to the Libs, they are partying like its 1969, totally aloof to the tsunami of reality and disaster that is about to hit them.
Are these my far right wing talking points, you just wait and see, Obama and the Democrats are gonna fix. Actually I think that all the fixes that American Socialists have forced on the republic are the reason they’re being fitted for 7 foot long pine boxes.
Stop and make a greatest hits list of the Libs “accomplishments” and you’ll see why I’m calling in the undertaker.
Public Schools - This idea is all theirs even though today it enjoys bi-partisan support. No single progressive program has done more damage to this republic and the children living in it than public education. Libtards themselves must endlessly campaign for ever increasing amounts of resources per pupil.
More and more parents are home-schooling, tutoring and turning to 3rd party educators like Founding Father Films to educate their children.
Labor Unions, another exclusive franchise of the Stalinist libtards has worn its welcome out with but 48% of Americans approving down from its 1950’s high of 75%. These numbers do not reflect the destructive impact these unions, which these days are made of mostly government employees, have on state and local budgets.
When Americans discover the full scale of what libtard pols have promised these labor union thugs in retirement benefits, there will be a revolt. This is coming to your state very soon, it’s already hit California, Arizona and Pennsylvania to name a few.
The biggest messes created by American Socialists: Schools and the labor work force. The nail in the Libs\dems coffin comes in the form of the most discussed topic on earth today. No, NOT global warming, we’re talking “health care”.
It’s interesting to watch the Libs\dems run such a passionate campaign to slay the monster that they themselves created. It was American Socialists that created MediCare and then MediCaid. They allegedly created these wealth transfer agencies to help the elderly and the poor. They helped them alright, helped them become de-facto slaves to Leviathan. Many of these people have been stripped of their liberties and the basic human instinct of survival. This was traded to the Libtard State in exchange for the security of “free” health care benefits whose funding is provided by those who have yet to surrender to Big Brother. We call these people entrepreneurs, small biz men and women.
I have argued from day one that this issue must be argued on the grounds that it is a personal liberty to choose your doctor and for doctors to choose their profession. We have all witnessed the corrupt zeal with which the Libtards have sought to compel all of us to become their slaves and they have lost this argument.
Regardless of whether Dear Leader Chairman MaObama signs a “health care bill” this month, the people that promoted, bribed and forced it on us will be forever more marked for it and this will be their undoing.
Good… freaking… riddance!
The final nail in the Libtard coffin is Industry. The United States began the last century as the world leader in manufacturing, as late as the 1950’s, the States manufactured nearly 70% of everything consumed in this republic.
70%…
That figure has now dropped to 30% and it is the result of 50 years of unionizing, minimum wages, rules and regulations, taxes and slavery subsidies. All of these things were the dreams of the American Socialist and they became the nightmare of the American worker. This too must and will end.
What then will the Libs\dems do when they have been stripped of power over:
Schools, Industry, Health Care and Services?
Well, here’s one possible scenario: They will do what ever we demand they do, if they want a job sweeping emptying bedpans in our hospitals, sweeping floors in our power plants our washing chalk from our private school chalkboards....
It is time for this demonizing experiment called "socialism" to end, it does not work, never has worked, and never will work!
Saturday, November 14, 2009
A must read between an independent, a liberal, and a conservative
First, all the participates names have been changed to repect their privacy...
This is a conversation/debate that all citizens of this great republic should be engaged in....
Tha main aspect of this convo is the respect that all parties involved showed to each other!
Christopher: Hey Hussein Obama Administration, Still making excuses for this murderous muslim? Still covering up terrorism? WHY??? he has to cover it up because we were attacked on our own soil less than 1 year into his term, when bush kept us safe for 7 years after the last attack......it goes to show what damage he has done from cow-tying our cia from doing their job.......and they would have to admit it.
Tina: Exactly.
Michael: He was not charged with terrorism because the Army has no such charge and it's under their jurisiction. I had thought the same thing as you initially...One more time, whether you like him or not he is POTUS and deserves respect for that.
Debbe: This is the worst Terrorist attack on U.S soil since 9/11 under Obama's watch!! I don't recall Bush getting ANY respect when he was POTUS? Maybe, he wasn't and won't be charged with terroism but that's what it was and its beoming more and more clear each day. In the military its called treason punishable by firing sqaud under the UCMJ. Obama tied the hands of the CIA and that's on him!!
Greg: Once again, we need to impeach Hussein for failure to follow the constitution in protecting the US. He is just one abject failure after another after another.
Michael: You guys are way too extreme! I suppose you believe Cheney does not deserve to be prosecuted for all his wrong doing correct?
Debbe: Honestly, I'm still not 100% sure Obama was born in the U.S and is not muslim himself? What wrong doings did Cheney commit? I never heard about them. Besides, are we going to prosecute everyone who had held office? Barack and his admin are the peope who has pursued the previous admin for criminal activity AFTER they left office!! Ridiculous!! AND ... Read Morethey called the CIA liars and tried to pursue charges againist the CIA!! It's a high and mighty self righteous attitude and so therefore they too should be pursued on what theor currently doing which is, taking over the private sector, dictating CEO pay, firing private citizens, stealing tax payer money, on and on. How is what we're saying extreme? What this administration has done so far IS extreme!! Just my opinion.
Michael: That birther crap is why he may win re-election in 2012!!! The two newest GOP Governors gave you the blueprint to winning in 2010 & 2012. It's the economy....
If the GOP focuses more on the economy, the DEMS will fall hard beginning in 2010. Independents and moderates like myself do not care about the birther, and muslim drama because what's done is done as he is POTUS. As for Cheney, please don't tell me that you are blind to the fact that he was responsible for the torturing overseas of detainees, and leaking the name of a CIA operative. C'mon the evidence is there but he has very loyal followers such as Libby and Rumsfeld refusing to talk.
All this birther and tea party stuff is nothing but a major show being put on by the right wing of the GOP. Now before you form an opinion, let me say that I am a republican that has voted for the GOP nominee each time including 2000. I did not vote for the GOP in 2008 because I did not feel comfortable with Palin being the VP and I felt that McCain would ruin the economy more than it already is expecially with advisers such as Phil Graham in his corner.... Read More... Read More
Focus on the economy and that will be the ticket to reclaiming the WH in 2012. That's all 10% of the unemployed and true working people are concerned with.
Tina: The one thing you are right about is that it is the economy, and right now it is being picked apart and destroyed by a group of people who loathe capitalism. This is not going to get better until we get back to the founding of this nation. FREEDOM. So, while the POTUS picks apart our ecomony we are being distracted by this mammoth HCR bill and Cap and Tax. Both of which will absolutely create a nation that will need to suckle at the Government teet. I am a conservative libertarian. And I will refuse the daily does assigned to me. I will achieve at any level I see fit. That is what is guaranteed to all of us in the constitution.
In addition the POTUS is refusing to deal with the wars. It would devastate his base if we actually won a war. We can't have that. That would mean America is Great. And believe you me, according to the left, we are NOT great. The President tells us and the world just how awful we are all the time.
Telling us to be quiet is no longer going to cut it. Listening to the left tell us that our candidates need to be more moderate is what has gotten us into this condition. The sleeping giant is awake now. We are making time out of work schedules to speak up. We have every right to speak up and vocalize OUR disdain for the President. i have not decided if I am birther. I actually think I am. But, that still doesn't win our wars, or get us JOBS!... Read More
Torture is defined in your heart. i like it that you are alive, and I like it that I am alive. I am proud of the men and women doing whatever it takes to keep us safe. No one is perfect, but their mission is to face evil and ensure OUR safety. They have a job I would not want. God Bless them. Too bad we can't ask those aborted babies if what they just went through is considered 'torture'.
Michael: It's not that I disagree with everything that is being said from the right, but it's how you say it. Protesting with pictures of POTUS being hung from a tree, or photos of him eating chicken or collard greens, and constantly alleging that he is a member of the Taliban is just plain cruel. Look, you are entitled to state your opinons because that is... Read More a basic right afforded to all of us by our founding fathers. However, it's how they come across to the public expecially guys like me that causes concern.
I happen to agree with the basic principles of the GOP as I do not think that government should be invloved in every aspect of one's life. However, I am black and do not take kind to the radical racial references that are implied daily from the right and you cannot deny that they are being said. If you disagree, just take a look at the tea party footage which can be found on youtube.
I am very disappointed in POTUS and believe that he is in way over his head at the moment, but I respect the fact that he is a black man that became POTUS against all odds. I like to listen to the arguements on both sides as well as engaging in them from time to time, but the Hussein Obama and other rhetoric I believe is way out of bounds as his name is President Barack Hussein Obama. Once that type of talk starts, I tune out as well as most of middle America I believe. We can always agree to disagree but I will not stand by and allow certain things to be said without a rebuttal. I hope you can understand where I am coming from.
Tina: And I don't disagree with you on very much either. What I will say about the racial slurs, is that it is abhorrent. Normal working peeps like me - that isn't where we are coming from. And the Main stream media presents that and forwards that non existent position. Which is really why those networks are sooo failing. I implore you to move away from those outlets if you really want to see us out here. I am still amazed at how we can still have these racial undertones when we elected a black President. It is just one of those things that makes me scratch my head. And to that end, I have never heard anything or anyone accuse the POTUS of being a member of the Taliban. Yet another sickening thing to say. That is crap, and is coming from places where normal people just don't exist. We all had to turn our heads when an effigy of Sarah Palin was hung up in Los Angeles. I am a women, and took severe um bridge. But, I turned my head, and kept going.
About youtube, there is a lot of garabage on youtube. There is some good stuff. But, again I tend to stay away from the far wing of either group. I know Dems, and I know Libs. I don't always understand their hearts, and that is cool, they are free. Some are Loons and some are not. I tend to weed out the people who think they can actually convert me.
Hussien IS his middle name. The left turned President Bush's middle name to 'dubya'. And referred to him in exactly that way. That is the way I see that terminology. Those singing school kids use Hussein in their indoctrination. When can his middle name be said? ...
I don't chose to respect anyone by the color of their skin or their gender. I choose to respect those that earn it. Just getting elected to an office isn't enough. The job has to be done to my satisfaction. And right now no job in the WH or congress is being done to my satisfaction. I don't know what 'against all odds' means. We are all here by the grace of God, and make our lives what we set out to make our lives. I don't buy into the Sotomayor crap about how hard her life was. Whatever. Who's life isn't hard? Who doesn't have to look at themselves in the mirror and demand success. So, I don't care about the odds. I can work for whatever it is I want. Nothing has ever stopped me before. Where I am in my life is where i want to be. So, I don't buy into any of that for anyone. All he did was win an election. He had no political history. So, he could say whatever he wanted to win an election. George Soros funded him and we voted him in.
The original post made no mention of the color of his skin. Just stated the obvious about what a poor job he is doing.
So, I do understand where you are coming from. Where we are coming from has nothing to do with skin color. And I think we would all agree on that. I don't fb with bigots. But, just because someone disagrees with anyone doesn't make them a bigot. I don't remember that going on at all, when movies were made on how to murder President Bush. Back then it was patriotic to disagree..now to disagree you much be a bigots, tea bagger, neocon...extremist...
Debbe:Tina you Rock too!! Michael, I don't disagree with everything ypur saying but, it sounds to me like your NOT a kool-aid drinker and that's what matters! Your open minded and at least willing to listen to both sides sincerly. That's cool!! I never met a lib that ever did that before.
Debbe:Oh, Michael I dp want to add that the ONLY time I ever hear race being brought up is from the left!! Everytime I disagree with a lib I'm called a racist!! It's so old and boring anymore! I wish they would get a new card to play!!
Michael:I agree with you 100% on that Debbie....
Christopher:I did not feel comfortable with Palin being the VP and I felt that McCain would ruin the economy more than it already is expecially with advisers such as Phil Graham in his corner..?????? Really??? Hows obamas crew doing with the economy????Yeah, hes doing a great job! And i dont know if you remember(since you brought it up) bush was demonized for ... Read More6 straight years.....no president was ever damned like he was, ever and you know this to be true.....everyday i saw signs that didnt just suggest that he would be killed, the left asked for his murder on a daily basis, and if you dont believe me mike go to you tube, or google it! what radical right racial references??? I will agree with you about the road map to the white house......all the gop has to do is stick to a conservative platform and adopt the concept of repealing all these social programs, but alas you and I know they dont believe in their own platform and they have a way of sticking their foot in their mouths....and you know why? Because they are part of the leviathon beast we call the federal government, and they dont believe in limited government......
and mike i know you think obama deserves the upmost respect because he IS the president of the U.S., but he has to earn that respect too, his color or the office doesnt grant him a pass every time he screws up! He was hired to represent all of us and quite frankly, he hasn`t lived up to his own hype......and I say HIS OWN HYPE because this is the first time in the history of a presidential campaign that the voters were not allowed to question the canidate, and no one knew anything about him....we couldn`t without someone one the left calling us racists.....and you know this to be true!
@ deb, mikes not a lib.....hes what the media calls a moderate.....and thats not at all a bad thing as long as he stays rational and doesnt get caught up in obamas spell!
Debbe:Christopher, you Rock! Spot on with everything, I couldn't agree more. I hope Michael doesn't get lost in the sauce with Obama like so many others!
Michael:Christopher - Trust me when I say that I am not happy with the way this administration is handling the economy as I along with others was sold a bag of goods. Election 2008 was rough as the economy had almost hit rock bottom and I had just laid off 300 great employees from my company.
Based strictly on campaign talk, I bought into the idea of ... Read Moregovernment intervention to help get the economy back on track. I thought it was time to try something new, but now it is even worse as I am in my office this weekend trying to put severance packages together for another 250 employees that will be laid off in next week. I'm a Vice President of Human Resources and these are not good times.
Anyway, trust me when I say that I see the good but I also the major faults with the current President. He has a ways to go and much to accomplish and repair before I will even consider voting for a dem in 2012. Right now I don't trust anything that comes from 1600 one bit!!!!!! Lastly, I met President Bush and voted for him in 2004. I also worked for his brother Jeb during his first 3 years as Governor down here and still talk to him from time to time. I resigned from the NAACP because I did not agree with the Bush bashing that was being said. 2012 is the GOP's election to lose....
Christopher: Mike, we have chatted enough for you to know I hold no faith with the gop.....I am a conservative first, a family man 2nd, and god willing a patriot 3rd.....i dont care if an canidate is repub, dem, or independent...as long as they do the right thing and by that i mean I want them to cut back on all the spending, i want them to go back to following the constitution and what our founding fathers started,
and i want them to respect and listen to the people that sent them to washington.....I want to see real tax,and health reform, I want to see our polititions fight for this country and stop trying to transform us to france, or china.
This is america, our country, and our country should ALWAYS come first, NO EXCEPTIONS, EVER!!!
I want them to stop lying to us about our natural resources...stop paying the folks that hate us for energy that we could be harvesting for ourselves right here at home!
I want the racial and religous pc crap to stop once and for all, this is supposed to be the land where we are all created equal, lets start acting like it!... Read More
I want the government out of our classrooms, churches, banks, and the rest of the private sector!!!!!
Lets get back to hard work and sacrifice, lets get back to the way things used to be when communities helpped each other, without the government sticking their nose in our daily affairs and telling us what to do...
You said it yourself, your company is hurtting because the government is regulating every aspect of your business and the free market, from housing, to the food we eat......this must stop, one way or another!
sorry, didnt mean to rattle on and on.....but as you can see we are both passionate men when it comes to this great nation!
Michael: That was a good read my friend, a damn good read!!!!
Tina: I agree with Micheal, that was a good read! I too have no desire to know what letter someone is - just go to work for the US. I an sorry to hear Micheal that you are having to do what I would never want to do. God bless you and those on the other side of your desk. Christopher really did a great job with articulating all my political emotion. I ... Read Morelove this country. This place is iconic. We are a free people. As a war veteran I will not sit idly by and watch my countries leaders tell us that we need to be like everyone else. Where will the world go when America is now just like... Burma?
Christopher: mike, my heart goes out to your employees, and especially to you for the most difficult decision you have ahead of you, all you are trying to do is live the real american dream and support your family to the best of your abilities and true hard work and sacrifice!!!! Its a damn shame what you and thousands of other small business owners are forced ... Read Moreto endure because of a few political elitists who definatly think they know more about running your business than you do....
now what would help to save our republic is if everyone was privey to your story......people have to realize what our government is doing to us, and it has been going on for a while, it didn`t just start with obamas` admin or election, but if we are to save our form of government, our country, our freedoms and liberties then it must end with obamas administration!
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ITS PEOPLE
This is a conversation/debate that all citizens of this great republic should be engaged in....
Tha main aspect of this convo is the respect that all parties involved showed to each other!
Christopher: Hey Hussein Obama Administration, Still making excuses for this murderous muslim? Still covering up terrorism? WHY??? he has to cover it up because we were attacked on our own soil less than 1 year into his term, when bush kept us safe for 7 years after the last attack......it goes to show what damage he has done from cow-tying our cia from doing their job.......and they would have to admit it.
Tina: Exactly.
Michael: He was not charged with terrorism because the Army has no such charge and it's under their jurisiction. I had thought the same thing as you initially...One more time, whether you like him or not he is POTUS and deserves respect for that.
Debbe: This is the worst Terrorist attack on U.S soil since 9/11 under Obama's watch!! I don't recall Bush getting ANY respect when he was POTUS? Maybe, he wasn't and won't be charged with terroism but that's what it was and its beoming more and more clear each day. In the military its called treason punishable by firing sqaud under the UCMJ. Obama tied the hands of the CIA and that's on him!!
Greg: Once again, we need to impeach Hussein for failure to follow the constitution in protecting the US. He is just one abject failure after another after another.
Michael: You guys are way too extreme! I suppose you believe Cheney does not deserve to be prosecuted for all his wrong doing correct?
Debbe: Honestly, I'm still not 100% sure Obama was born in the U.S and is not muslim himself? What wrong doings did Cheney commit? I never heard about them. Besides, are we going to prosecute everyone who had held office? Barack and his admin are the peope who has pursued the previous admin for criminal activity AFTER they left office!! Ridiculous!! AND ... Read Morethey called the CIA liars and tried to pursue charges againist the CIA!! It's a high and mighty self righteous attitude and so therefore they too should be pursued on what theor currently doing which is, taking over the private sector, dictating CEO pay, firing private citizens, stealing tax payer money, on and on. How is what we're saying extreme? What this administration has done so far IS extreme!! Just my opinion.
Michael: That birther crap is why he may win re-election in 2012!!! The two newest GOP Governors gave you the blueprint to winning in 2010 & 2012. It's the economy....
If the GOP focuses more on the economy, the DEMS will fall hard beginning in 2010. Independents and moderates like myself do not care about the birther, and muslim drama because what's done is done as he is POTUS. As for Cheney, please don't tell me that you are blind to the fact that he was responsible for the torturing overseas of detainees, and leaking the name of a CIA operative. C'mon the evidence is there but he has very loyal followers such as Libby and Rumsfeld refusing to talk.
All this birther and tea party stuff is nothing but a major show being put on by the right wing of the GOP. Now before you form an opinion, let me say that I am a republican that has voted for the GOP nominee each time including 2000. I did not vote for the GOP in 2008 because I did not feel comfortable with Palin being the VP and I felt that McCain would ruin the economy more than it already is expecially with advisers such as Phil Graham in his corner.... Read More... Read More
Focus on the economy and that will be the ticket to reclaiming the WH in 2012. That's all 10% of the unemployed and true working people are concerned with.
Tina: The one thing you are right about is that it is the economy, and right now it is being picked apart and destroyed by a group of people who loathe capitalism. This is not going to get better until we get back to the founding of this nation. FREEDOM. So, while the POTUS picks apart our ecomony we are being distracted by this mammoth HCR bill and Cap and Tax. Both of which will absolutely create a nation that will need to suckle at the Government teet. I am a conservative libertarian. And I will refuse the daily does assigned to me. I will achieve at any level I see fit. That is what is guaranteed to all of us in the constitution.
In addition the POTUS is refusing to deal with the wars. It would devastate his base if we actually won a war. We can't have that. That would mean America is Great. And believe you me, according to the left, we are NOT great. The President tells us and the world just how awful we are all the time.
Telling us to be quiet is no longer going to cut it. Listening to the left tell us that our candidates need to be more moderate is what has gotten us into this condition. The sleeping giant is awake now. We are making time out of work schedules to speak up. We have every right to speak up and vocalize OUR disdain for the President. i have not decided if I am birther. I actually think I am. But, that still doesn't win our wars, or get us JOBS!... Read More
Torture is defined in your heart. i like it that you are alive, and I like it that I am alive. I am proud of the men and women doing whatever it takes to keep us safe. No one is perfect, but their mission is to face evil and ensure OUR safety. They have a job I would not want. God Bless them. Too bad we can't ask those aborted babies if what they just went through is considered 'torture'.
Michael: It's not that I disagree with everything that is being said from the right, but it's how you say it. Protesting with pictures of POTUS being hung from a tree, or photos of him eating chicken or collard greens, and constantly alleging that he is a member of the Taliban is just plain cruel. Look, you are entitled to state your opinons because that is... Read More a basic right afforded to all of us by our founding fathers. However, it's how they come across to the public expecially guys like me that causes concern.
I happen to agree with the basic principles of the GOP as I do not think that government should be invloved in every aspect of one's life. However, I am black and do not take kind to the radical racial references that are implied daily from the right and you cannot deny that they are being said. If you disagree, just take a look at the tea party footage which can be found on youtube.
I am very disappointed in POTUS and believe that he is in way over his head at the moment, but I respect the fact that he is a black man that became POTUS against all odds. I like to listen to the arguements on both sides as well as engaging in them from time to time, but the Hussein Obama and other rhetoric I believe is way out of bounds as his name is President Barack Hussein Obama. Once that type of talk starts, I tune out as well as most of middle America I believe. We can always agree to disagree but I will not stand by and allow certain things to be said without a rebuttal. I hope you can understand where I am coming from.
Tina: And I don't disagree with you on very much either. What I will say about the racial slurs, is that it is abhorrent. Normal working peeps like me - that isn't where we are coming from. And the Main stream media presents that and forwards that non existent position. Which is really why those networks are sooo failing. I implore you to move away from those outlets if you really want to see us out here. I am still amazed at how we can still have these racial undertones when we elected a black President. It is just one of those things that makes me scratch my head. And to that end, I have never heard anything or anyone accuse the POTUS of being a member of the Taliban. Yet another sickening thing to say. That is crap, and is coming from places where normal people just don't exist. We all had to turn our heads when an effigy of Sarah Palin was hung up in Los Angeles. I am a women, and took severe um bridge. But, I turned my head, and kept going.
About youtube, there is a lot of garabage on youtube. There is some good stuff. But, again I tend to stay away from the far wing of either group. I know Dems, and I know Libs. I don't always understand their hearts, and that is cool, they are free. Some are Loons and some are not. I tend to weed out the people who think they can actually convert me.
Hussien IS his middle name. The left turned President Bush's middle name to 'dubya'. And referred to him in exactly that way. That is the way I see that terminology. Those singing school kids use Hussein in their indoctrination. When can his middle name be said? ...
I don't chose to respect anyone by the color of their skin or their gender. I choose to respect those that earn it. Just getting elected to an office isn't enough. The job has to be done to my satisfaction. And right now no job in the WH or congress is being done to my satisfaction. I don't know what 'against all odds' means. We are all here by the grace of God, and make our lives what we set out to make our lives. I don't buy into the Sotomayor crap about how hard her life was. Whatever. Who's life isn't hard? Who doesn't have to look at themselves in the mirror and demand success. So, I don't care about the odds. I can work for whatever it is I want. Nothing has ever stopped me before. Where I am in my life is where i want to be. So, I don't buy into any of that for anyone. All he did was win an election. He had no political history. So, he could say whatever he wanted to win an election. George Soros funded him and we voted him in.
The original post made no mention of the color of his skin. Just stated the obvious about what a poor job he is doing.
So, I do understand where you are coming from. Where we are coming from has nothing to do with skin color. And I think we would all agree on that. I don't fb with bigots. But, just because someone disagrees with anyone doesn't make them a bigot. I don't remember that going on at all, when movies were made on how to murder President Bush. Back then it was patriotic to disagree..now to disagree you much be a bigots, tea bagger, neocon...extremist...
Debbe:Tina you Rock too!! Michael, I don't disagree with everything ypur saying but, it sounds to me like your NOT a kool-aid drinker and that's what matters! Your open minded and at least willing to listen to both sides sincerly. That's cool!! I never met a lib that ever did that before.
Debbe:Oh, Michael I dp want to add that the ONLY time I ever hear race being brought up is from the left!! Everytime I disagree with a lib I'm called a racist!! It's so old and boring anymore! I wish they would get a new card to play!!
Michael:I agree with you 100% on that Debbie....
Christopher:I did not feel comfortable with Palin being the VP and I felt that McCain would ruin the economy more than it already is expecially with advisers such as Phil Graham in his corner..?????? Really??? Hows obamas crew doing with the economy????Yeah, hes doing a great job! And i dont know if you remember(since you brought it up) bush was demonized for ... Read More6 straight years.....no president was ever damned like he was, ever and you know this to be true.....everyday i saw signs that didnt just suggest that he would be killed, the left asked for his murder on a daily basis, and if you dont believe me mike go to you tube, or google it! what radical right racial references??? I will agree with you about the road map to the white house......all the gop has to do is stick to a conservative platform and adopt the concept of repealing all these social programs, but alas you and I know they dont believe in their own platform and they have a way of sticking their foot in their mouths....and you know why? Because they are part of the leviathon beast we call the federal government, and they dont believe in limited government......
and mike i know you think obama deserves the upmost respect because he IS the president of the U.S., but he has to earn that respect too, his color or the office doesnt grant him a pass every time he screws up! He was hired to represent all of us and quite frankly, he hasn`t lived up to his own hype......and I say HIS OWN HYPE because this is the first time in the history of a presidential campaign that the voters were not allowed to question the canidate, and no one knew anything about him....we couldn`t without someone one the left calling us racists.....and you know this to be true!
@ deb, mikes not a lib.....hes what the media calls a moderate.....and thats not at all a bad thing as long as he stays rational and doesnt get caught up in obamas spell!
Debbe:Christopher, you Rock! Spot on with everything, I couldn't agree more. I hope Michael doesn't get lost in the sauce with Obama like so many others!
Michael:Christopher - Trust me when I say that I am not happy with the way this administration is handling the economy as I along with others was sold a bag of goods. Election 2008 was rough as the economy had almost hit rock bottom and I had just laid off 300 great employees from my company.
Based strictly on campaign talk, I bought into the idea of ... Read Moregovernment intervention to help get the economy back on track. I thought it was time to try something new, but now it is even worse as I am in my office this weekend trying to put severance packages together for another 250 employees that will be laid off in next week. I'm a Vice President of Human Resources and these are not good times.
Anyway, trust me when I say that I see the good but I also the major faults with the current President. He has a ways to go and much to accomplish and repair before I will even consider voting for a dem in 2012. Right now I don't trust anything that comes from 1600 one bit!!!!!! Lastly, I met President Bush and voted for him in 2004. I also worked for his brother Jeb during his first 3 years as Governor down here and still talk to him from time to time. I resigned from the NAACP because I did not agree with the Bush bashing that was being said. 2012 is the GOP's election to lose....
Christopher: Mike, we have chatted enough for you to know I hold no faith with the gop.....I am a conservative first, a family man 2nd, and god willing a patriot 3rd.....i dont care if an canidate is repub, dem, or independent...as long as they do the right thing and by that i mean I want them to cut back on all the spending, i want them to go back to following the constitution and what our founding fathers started,
and i want them to respect and listen to the people that sent them to washington.....I want to see real tax,and health reform, I want to see our polititions fight for this country and stop trying to transform us to france, or china.
This is america, our country, and our country should ALWAYS come first, NO EXCEPTIONS, EVER!!!
I want them to stop lying to us about our natural resources...stop paying the folks that hate us for energy that we could be harvesting for ourselves right here at home!
I want the racial and religous pc crap to stop once and for all, this is supposed to be the land where we are all created equal, lets start acting like it!... Read More
I want the government out of our classrooms, churches, banks, and the rest of the private sector!!!!!
Lets get back to hard work and sacrifice, lets get back to the way things used to be when communities helpped each other, without the government sticking their nose in our daily affairs and telling us what to do...
You said it yourself, your company is hurtting because the government is regulating every aspect of your business and the free market, from housing, to the food we eat......this must stop, one way or another!
sorry, didnt mean to rattle on and on.....but as you can see we are both passionate men when it comes to this great nation!
Michael: That was a good read my friend, a damn good read!!!!
Tina: I agree with Micheal, that was a good read! I too have no desire to know what letter someone is - just go to work for the US. I an sorry to hear Micheal that you are having to do what I would never want to do. God bless you and those on the other side of your desk. Christopher really did a great job with articulating all my political emotion. I ... Read Morelove this country. This place is iconic. We are a free people. As a war veteran I will not sit idly by and watch my countries leaders tell us that we need to be like everyone else. Where will the world go when America is now just like... Burma?
Christopher: mike, my heart goes out to your employees, and especially to you for the most difficult decision you have ahead of you, all you are trying to do is live the real american dream and support your family to the best of your abilities and true hard work and sacrifice!!!! Its a damn shame what you and thousands of other small business owners are forced ... Read Moreto endure because of a few political elitists who definatly think they know more about running your business than you do....
now what would help to save our republic is if everyone was privey to your story......people have to realize what our government is doing to us, and it has been going on for a while, it didn`t just start with obamas` admin or election, but if we are to save our form of government, our country, our freedoms and liberties then it must end with obamas administration!
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ITS PEOPLE
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